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A group for those who follow the beautiful traditional Latin Mass. This is the Mass which has now been coined "The Extraordinary Form of the Mass" by Pope Benedict XVI in his encyclical "Muto Propio"

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Members: 23
Latest Activity: Mar 10

FAQ:

1. Is this Rite of the Mass permitted by the Pope?
When Pope Paul VI introduced his New Rite of Mass in 1969 he gave permission for the continuation of the Tridentine Rite in England and Wales, for example. Many priests were accorded the right to continue celebrating the Traditional Latin Mass, as well, and then, in 1984 Pope John Paul extended that permission to the whole world. In 1988 the Pontiff asked the Bishops to be generous in the application of the permission.

In 2007, Pope Benedict XVI acknowledged that every priest has a right to offer this form of the Mass, which he calls the Extraordinary Form.

2. In the Traditional Latin Mass, do the people sing or say the prayers with the priest?
Just as in the celebration of the Mass in the Ordinary Form (post-Vatican II Mass), the priest alone will recite many of the prayers of the Extraordinary Form of the Mass (1962 Missale Romanum). At a High Mass where the choir sings the Ordinary (unchanging) and Proper (changing) chants, the people are encouraged to sing the responses (i.e. Amen, Et cum spiritu tuo, Dignum et justum est, etc.), and if possible, the Ordinary (i.e. Kyrie, Gloria, Credo, Sanctus, Agnus Dei). At a Low Mass the people can sing hymns along with the choir. At a special form of the Low Mass called the Dialogue Mass, which is celebrated in some places, the people may also recite some of the responses with the altar boys.

A newcomer to the Extraordinary Form of the Mass will notice that at a High Mass, the choir often sings while the priest is quietly praying at the altar. Because it typically takes the choir a longer time to sing its part than it takes for the priest to say his part, the two will overlap.

3. Does the Traditional Latin Mass fulfill the Sunday obligation?
Of course! - as it has for nearly twenty centuries.

4. Why does the priest not face the people for most of the Traditional Latin Mass?
The priest offers Mass facing the same direction as the people, because he and the people together are offering worship and sacrifice to God. He is not turning his back on the people to exclude them. Rather, as a Christian community, are all facing ad orientem (i.e. toward the east) waiting in joyful expectation for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ who will return to judge the living and the dead and the world by fire (Rite of Baptism, 1962).

What in the early Church determined the position of the altar was that it faced Eastward. To quote St. Augustine: "When we rise to pray, we turn East, where heaven begins. And we do this not because God is there, as if He had moved away from the other directions on earth..., but rather to help us remember to turn our mind towards a higher order, that is, to God."

This quotation shows that the Christians of those early days, after listening to the homily, would rise for the prayer which followed, and turn towards the East. St. Augustine always refers to this turning to the East in prayer at the end of his homilies, using a set formula, Conversi ad Dominum ("turn to face the Lord").

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Comment by nwokorie stanley on March 10, 2012 at 4:39pm: Late Pope John Paul II may be Declared Saint Soon

According to an AFP report on Yahoo7 News, a second miracle attributed to late pope John Paul II has been reported, and he could be made a saint soon.

It said Italy's Panorama weekly, citing documents sent to the Vatican, reported that the miraculous healing occurred just weeks after Pope John Paul II's beatification on May 1 last year, which put him on the path to sainthood just six years after his death.

The first miracle attributed to the late pope was the healing of a French nun, Sister Marie Simon-Pierre, who recovered from Parkinson's disease.

No details have been given about the second miracle yet, which was chosen from among four reported and documented by the promoter of Karol Wojtyla's canonisation, Bishop Slowomir Oder. Vatican spokesman Fr. Federico Lombardi declined to comment on the report, stressing that only a decree from the Congregation could confirm it.

The magazine said the case was being studied by experts from the Congregation for the Cause of Saints and, if it occurred, could lead to the canonisation of the late pope within the next 12 months.

Many Catholic faithful want John Paul II made a saint as soon as possible, even me, I want my great mentor canonized as soon as possible. His life has remained a model and an inspiration for me. Blessed Pope John Paul II – Pray for us.

Comment by nwokorie stanley on March 10, 2012 at 9:24am: Thanks Erika Drain

Comment by Erika Drain on March 9, 2012 at 9:20pm: Welcome to the group, Nwokorie Stantley! :) Blessings, Erika +JMJ+

Comment by nwokorie stanley on March 9, 2012 at 8:04pm: Hi everyone, am very happy to be a member of this group.Thanks and God bless everyone

Comment by Erika Drain on July 20, 2010 at 12:29am: I taught at a school with Carmelite nuns and the kids all had to place +JMJ+ as the header and footer of their assignments...I loved it and try to do it as often as possible... :)

Comment by Stephanie Martin on July 20, 2010 at 12:23am: That's wonderful, Erika. :) BTW, my grandparents used "J.M.J" all the time. I miss them so much.

Comment by Erika Drain on July 20, 2010 at 12:09am: Thank you, so much everyone for the prayers and the information! :) I'm secretly excited that he got laid off! lol...oh how we dream of having the EFM available daily! <3 We have a priest friend who is FSSP who is willing to baptize our baby at our local Parish but the Pastor won't allow it and said we need to go to another parish 50 minutes North of us to do it (that's were the EFM is offered now in our Diocese)...so we are very excited for this Mass possibility and job as well - ALL prayers are SO welcomed! :) God bless you all! Pax Christi! +JMJ+

Comment by Stephanie Martin on July 19, 2010 at 11:53pm: Thank you very much, Christine :)

Comment by Christine on July 19, 2010 at 11:50pm: Welcome Stephanie!

Erika, your family will be in my prayers, as your huband looks for a job. The FSSP lists all of their locations on their website, http://fssp.com/press/locations/.